tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC January 17, 2018 10:00pm-11:00pm PST
we got news trump will be traveling to pennsylvania there's a special election held in pennsylvania that's been held by a republican for a very long time. >> i've been thinking about the president and the porn star story but haven't mentioned it on this show. and then, listening to your analysis of it, you raised a point that i hadn't considered, which is this important point about who paid the money. who paid the $130,000 that's reported as a kind of hush money, buying the silence of this former adult film actress.
and that was one of the issues in the john edwards case, who was paying the money to keep that quiet. and that was investigated as an fec violation, which is what you were getting at tonight. >> yeah. whatever you think about, you know, the president and his, you know, pants and stuff, the issue of money here matters. particularly when one of these alleged payments happened a month before the election. another one around that same time. these are both very credibly reported payments, $130,000 payment, $150,000 payment. if the "national enquirer" made that as an inkind to the trump campaign, that has implications. the $130,000 that hasn't been denied, we have no idea of the source. but a month before the election, there's potential criminal campaign finance implications there.
so again you don't have to care about the sex part of it to know this could be a serious story for the president. >> i think it's one of the stories because there's a sex part of it we're distracted from the strike zone of the story you found, which is where the focus should be. >> i put on like as me to bag and glasses with the aviator sides on it. no distractions. >> you've read more of it than i have. >> i don't want to talk about it. >> thank you, rachel. there she goes, but taught us another important lesson tonight. the president and the porn star has been a story since last friday, and i have not said a word about it. because there are so many more important stories that we have to cover. now, this is the very first copy of "in touch" magazine that i have ever held in my hands. and i learned a lot from this
magazine. there's more in here than what's on the cover. including a lot of stuff that i don't have time to read. like everything you could possibly want to know anybody everyone named kardashians and then quick reads, are they going overboard with lip plumping. i didn't have to read that to get the answer, yes. and then nice interest stories like the couple that lost 407 pounds together. and there's a story about someone else in the magazine, whose doctor would like him to lose some weight. this guy. that's one of the pictures of him that appears in the cover story about the president of the united states and the porn star. the title of the story is "my affair with donald" it promises you the secret hotel hookup, how they hid it from milania, and it asks will the first lady file for divorce.
i didn't have to read that to answer that, no. here is how it's presented. stormy daniels, donald cheated on milania with me. and that is all i have had the time to read in this article about donald trump having an affair with a porn star four months after his third wife gave birth to his fifth child. ten years before he ran for president. okay, i actually did read one more thing in the article. it's the big poll quote in the middle of the article. it's stormy daniels talking about her first date with donald trump. she says, i was definitely stimulated. i could tell he was nice, intelligent in conversation. intelligent in conversation.
that is, actually, the article's only direct contribution to the current controversy surrounding the president's health issues. he was able to pass the porn star test ten years ago. we didn't know that today, but that's it. that's all i had time for in this story. the first time in history the president of the united states is on the cover of a magazine with a porn star in a story about them having an affair, and the president paying the porn star $130,000 to buy her silence in the trump white house, that is just another day at the office. and the white house press secretary today was not asked a single question about the porn star and the president. not one question. there is no clearer measure of how much donald trump has
changed the presidency and how much donald trump has changed the white house press corp. and the news media in america. but he hasn't changed the news media the way he wants to change the news media. he has not bent the news media to his will. he has not beaten them down to the point where no one in the white house press corp. dared to ask about the president and the porn star today. he has simply changed the news media's ability to focus on the president and the porn star story by creating so many more important stories about his presidency, more urgent stories. including, so many more negative stories about his presidency. stories like his racist attack on all 54 countries in africa. stories like the trump white house chief of staff who decided that the right thing for him to do today would be to side with joseph stalin and donald trump
against jeff flake who compared donald trump to joseph stalin on the senate floor. we're also covering stories like the president's former white house chief strategist deciding to cooperate with the special prosecutor investigating the white house. that is a more important story than the president and the porn star. nbc news reports that a team close to steve bannon says he is cooperating with robert mueller and will be interviewed by robert mueller instead of testifying at a grand jury. sources indicating it's undecided when that interview will take place. and the source also told nbc news, roughly 6 hours were spent on questions related to the
campaign and five hours on questions to the transition yesterday before the senate intelligence committee. the associated press has details about that. steve bannon's attorney relays questioned in real time to the white house during the a house intelligence committee interview of the former trump chief strategyist. his attorney was told by phone not to discuss the work on the transition or white house. it's unclear who he was talking with. burke is also representing don mcgahn in the investigation. >> did the white house tell him to invoke executive privilege? >> no. steve has had very little contact since he left the white house.
i know steve a little bit, not very well, he left the white house and has certainly never returned to the white house. with the exception of a few phone calls here and there, very little contact with the white house. and i certainly have never spoke to him since he left. >> here's what congressman adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee said to rachel about this. >> they send general kelly out today to say we haven't invoked executive privilege. technically that's true. what they have done, telling witnesses don't answer the question but also don't tell the committee we've invoked executive privilege. we don't want to look like we're hiding something, so don't answer the question. if we don't allow this, it impairs the ability of any congress in the future to hold any administration accountability if we take no for
an answer when it's convenient for the white house. joining us now, betsy wood rough, ron clane, and john hileman. ron cline, i want to go to this news today about steve bannon cooperating enough with the special prosecutor that they dropped the threat of a subpoena to a grand jury. what is the difference for bannon testifying to a grand jury where his lawyer would not be allowed in the room and have to answer under oath and speaking in this less formal interview context with the prosecutor's office? >> well, i think the difference is obviously it's part of steve bannon's makeup tour with the white house. and i think the difference, as you noted, lawrence, is that his lawyer will be present.
and as you discussed a moment ago his lawyer is also the lawyer for the white house counsel. so that means the white houses' lawyer's lawyer will sit in the room when bob mueller asks steve bannon these questions and they'll know what he said, if he said something bad about the president or his son or whatever. so it is an effort by -- i think bannon and his team are trying to get right with the white house, kind of on an apology tour and it seems like this is part of that effort. >> john, we just heard congressman schiff say that john kelly was technically right on fox news when he said no was bannon invoking executive privilege. but you listen to the congressman, he was invoking some privilege that doesn't have a name. even though executive privilege has a name. >> this has been a consistent frustration for the people on the hill and the american
public. trump administration officials saying i'm not going to answer that question to senate white house investigators when asked -- >> in some of the televised hearings. >> we've seen jeff sessions and the national security people as well. and the senators come back, are you invoking executive privilege? i'm not invoking executive privilege i'm just not going to answer. this is a wrong without a remedy. you can be censured by the committee, the senate -- you know more about rules than i do -- you can say i'm invoking executive privilege, i'm not going to answer the question, slap me on the wrist if you want to do it. it's not helpful and outside all precedent but what's new in the trump administration. >> betsy these witnesses know the only real remedy congress has in these hearings is basically charge them with competent of congress, which becomes a complicated legal proceeding and ends up in court
and congress has to be pushed far to do that. >> correct. either chamber has to refer that contempt citation to the u.s. attorney for the district of washington d.c. and that u.s. attorney would decide whether or not to bring charges and one thing i imagine your viewers may be aware of is jesse lieu, the current attorney for washington d.c. is the member of the transition system. the likelihood they would refer four charges to the a former adviser and one of the people on the transition team would bring the charges is low. that's why the mueller investigation is so important. for all practical purposes congress doesn't have thatch leverage, doesn't have that many tools in the tool box. >> one of the many great steve
bannon lines in michael wolff's book saying there's no executive privilege. we proved that with water gate. so bannon himself gets it. i want to listen to what adam schiff said tonight about corry lieu encow dy. >> he came to testify yesterday he said on fox he would answer every question we had. today however he refused to answer questions, like steve bannon, that referred to anything after he left the campaign. now, he is not an administration official, never has been an administration official, there's obviously no privilege that applies here. those questions included by the way, did you have a conversation with the president of the united
states within the last 24 hours where you discussed your testimony. that is a question he would not answer. >> and ron, that last question is something that lawyers ask all the time, depositions, in courtrooms, who have you talked to to prepare your testimony. but the lewandowski refusal to answer questions is just inconceivable grounds for that. >> it goes back to what john said a minute ago. the trump administration has invented the i just don't want to answer that privilege. kind of a toothless republican congress seems generally inclined to accept that i don't want to answer that privilege. there's two problems with that, one it's bad precedent for the future. but i will say, as betsy referred to, this is not going to be case when these people get in front of bob mueller. he's not going to accept that. he will make the witnesses answer, voluntarily or he'll compel the testimony.
it comes down to whether or not, particularly steve bannon wants to play on team trump or is mad at the president. and whether he has more to fear from stormy daniels or stormy steve. >> axios said bannon admitted he conversations with reince priebus, sean spicer and mark ka rel low, about don junior's meeting in trump tower in june 2016. that's something he's going to have to tell the special counsel all about. >> crucial. the reality is there's a bunch of things -- the question is does bannon -- is he trying to kill the president or make up with him. but the reality is he's on the record in the wolff book on a lot of things. the key is he was not working for donald trump during the period of time that most of the things we're concerned with with
the collusion took place. however due to the incident you're talking about, that's a pivotal accident in the obstruction of justice case. so if he had that conversation, not only is he involved and has valuable testimony to give on the question of obstruction, but he also has a window into the speculative stuff that he's saying around the russia meeting in june 2016. so that opens up two lines of inquire, just on this mistake he made yesterday in front of the house intelligence committee. >> a mistake like that is a prosecutor's dream. he's in a position to say what reince priebus knew about the meeting, sean spicer knew about the meeting. and beyond that reince priebus may have heard he heard from someone else some fact about that meeting. all of that becomes discov rabble material. >> certainly and all of this
paints a picture of bannon as potentially being a vital witness to mueller and his team. that's why it's so important that what we're hearing from bannon world, yesterday and throughout the day, is that bannon is planning on being candid and open with mueller. one source told me bannon is going to tell mueller everything he knows. that's important for mueller and his team. that said, one vital to this con that the white house has not been consistent with what they had sooer senior staff do when they go before a committee. rick deerborn, who's currently the deputy white house chief of staff answered questions from members that he didn't say there was any executive privilege or any areas he wasn't allowed to talk about, that he was candid
in a way that many members found to be heartening but also extremely out of step with the message the white house has been sending. so it seems like, this will probably not shock folks to hear, the white house's planning for these hearings is not as organized and put together as folks in the white house may have hoped it would be. the result is we're seeing the president's legal team and the white house legal team be caught flat-footed again and again. what that means for bannon talking to mueller is it's tough to game out how ready they'll be from a defense perspective for any information that bannon gives special counsel. >> it does sound chaotic that there's someone who does have grounds for claiming executive privilege, who doesn't at all, and then two other people who have seemingly no grounds for it are claiming some kind of privilege. thank you for your input tonight, betsy.
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the president's secretary of state has reportedly referred to the president as a moron and some reports indicated he put a colorful and profaen adjective in front of that. and today his chief of staff called him uninformed. we are all uninformed about most things but we're supposed to be informed, in fact, highly informed, about the knowledge need today do our jobs effectively. today that's what john kelly said the president is uninformed about. it's the kind of thing that
provokes other people in your work place to call you a moron. mitch mcconnell is too much of a kentucky gentleman to say the president is a moron. but he said essentially the same thing today when he spoke to reporters and said the only problem to avoiding a shut down was that the president doesn't know what he wants. >> i'm looking for something that president trump supports, and he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign. as soon as we figure out what he is for, then i would be convinced that we were not just spinning our wheels going to this issue on the floor, but actually dealing with a bill that has a chance to become law and therefore solve the problem. >> as soon as we figure out what he's for with and republican senators standing around him nodding their heads about that. no senate leader has campaigned about the president of his own party having no idea about what he is for. mark meadows the right wing leader says it is impossible for
the republican leadership to pass a government funding bill with only republican votes. he said, quote, they do not have the votes and they do not have the votes because mark meadows won't give them the votes. that's why john kelly was on the hill trying to find a compromise position between democrats and republicans that could avoid a shutdown. "the washington post" reports john kelly told democratic lawmakers that some of president trump's promises were uninformed. and said a concrete wall from sea to shining sea is not going to happen. and there will be no wall that mexico will pay for. >> john hileman is back with us. and norm, we have seen the government approach to the deadline many times in the past.
we've never seen it quite like this before. >> that's for sure, lawrence. we had shutdowns when ronald reagan was president and one house and congress was controlled by the democrats. we had shutdowns when bill clinton was president. we had one with republicans precipitating one when barack obama was president. this will be the first time, if it happens, when you have all of the reigns of government effectively controlled by one party and by any standard, they could do it on their own. if they don't, it's their responsibility. >> let's listen to lindsey graham tonight on the senate floor, because the person he seems to be blaming for where we are now, among others but high on his list, is white house chief of staff john kelly. let's listen to this. >> general kelly, be as much as i admire you, for ten years i, and many others in this body,
have been trying to find a way forward. to fix an immigration system as broken. to turn it into a merit based immigration system over time. to get everyone right with the law. so i haven't been fiddling. what i ask is white house is find out what you're for. i can't read your mind. >> that's about as insulting as lindsey graham is going to get to john kelly and president trump. >> right. lindsey graham has been laying it at the feet of john kelly and the white house staff. in the end, this is not a staffing problem. this is not a john kelly problem. this is not even really a donald trump problem. to go back to norm's point. this is a problem of the latest of many vivid illustrations over the course of last year that the republican party is not a functional government party. it's a corrupt institution that
made a bunch of promises about repealing and replacing the affordable care act and had a chance to do it and couldn't do it. this is another one, we're heading towards a government shutdown because even though they control every part of the government relevant to the process cannot get their act together on not just this immigration thing, but on a wide array of things. this is not a hard thing for the government to do and they're on the brink of failing the task. >> when you think of other presidents when they send up the chief of staff or their best political operative, which is usually the chief of staff, they're sending up someone far more experience than john kelly, who has absolutely no experience in politics. he has donald trump's amount of experience in politics, even less because he wasn't on the trump campaign, and what's going on there is politics and john kelly is completely lost. >> that's true of almost anybody in the white house.
i think it's important to note, lawrence, that what john kelly said in his interview today reinforced something that we learned before. that it was kelly, probably in conjunction with steve miller, who killed the possibility of an agreement that lindsey graham and dick durbin and jeff flake and others worked out that might have avoided a shut down and worked in something constructive moving forward. kelly called tom cotton and bob good lat, two people who will never be a part of dealing with daca to make sure trump didn't do something they didn't want. and trump didn't know what was in the agreement, was set off by kelly. so kelly doesn't know politics but also intervened because of his own strong views, which have become apparent. >> time for one quick question.
will there be a shutdown? yes or no. >> shutdown. >> what do you think, norm. >> i think so, yes. >> my vote is, i don't know. >> you can't do that. >> oh, man. >> i did it. >> just because it's your show you get to do that? >> i said at the outset, we're all -- we all have pockets of ignorance, this is mine. >> that's cheap and sad. >> thank you for joining us, norm. coming up, what history was made in the united states senate today. it was a very sad history made there, when a republican senator actually compared the president of the united states to joseph stalin, and this is important, no one in the senate was surprised and no one in the senate objected. she's nationally recognized for her compassion and care. he spent decades fighting to give families a second chance. but to help others, they first had to protect themselves.
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not only has the past year seen an american president borrow language to refer to the free press but it seems he has now inturn inspired dictators and authoritarians with his own language, that's reprehenceable. >> steven spielberg's new film "the post" has been banned in lebah non. that's the kind of thing previous presidents used to condemn. it's now the kind of thing the president of the united states encourages. here's more from senator jeff flake today who became the first senator in history to compare
the president of the united states to joseph stalin. >> the enemy of the people was how the president of the united states called the free press in 2017. mr. president, it is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by joseph stalin to describe his enemies. it bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase enemy of the people that even crew chef forbade its use. >> tonight, on fox news, white house chief of staff john kelly was not asked why he lied about congressman fred rica wilson 90 days ago and never apologized for those lies even though video has proven that everything he said about congressman wilson
was a lie. but when offered the the chance to side with joseph stalin and donald trump or senator jeff flake, that was an easy choice for john kelly. >> in a speech today, arizona republican senator said the president's description of the press as fake news is stalin esk. how do you describe that. >> i think he's completely wrong. it suggests to me -- well, i just think he's completely wrong. i think it's beneath him. but he is a united states senator and he has his opinions and he can voice them anyway he wants. >> joining us now is the professor of international affairs, and the great granddaughter of the soviet leadership. nina, referee this dispute between john kelly and jeff
flake. john kelly says, i think he's completely wrong, when jeff flake was talking about comparing trump's language to joseph stalin. >> when i think john kelly is completely wrong. because enemy of the people was a very well known phrased that was used in stalin's russia, in hitler's germany to brand anybody disagreeing with the political system right from the top. so this is actually historical fact. it's truth. and, therefore, john kelly is wrong. although, i do want to say when we speak about flake -- senator flake comparing trump to joseph stalin, i think we are wrong. because he didn't compare them. he just compared the language. which i think in a democracy already is a coupe but noneless the it's not a direct comparison. >> explain that. >> in a democracy it is a coupe because not only the president is using enemy of the people,
not only semarly, the press organizations today we saw the results of the fake news award, which is remarkable in many ways, so it is a coup that the president brands those who disagree with them as the enemies and those who produce fake information -- that is something that nondemocracies do. so i think in this sense it's a coupe that in his language the president cites those well known dictators, and not just the 20th century dictators but all autocrats. >> that's another point jeff flake went on to make. let's listen to more of what he said, talking about president assad of syria and due tear tee
of the philippines. >> assad brushed off a report that some 13,000 people had been killed in one of his military prisons by saying you can forge anything these days, we're living in the fake news era. >> in the philippines, the president complained of being demonized. and last month, with our president by his side, called reporters liars. >> and he started this by saying the president's birth certificate wasn't the president's sirt certificate. >> what we're seeing is a full-scale attack on basic rules
and norms of democracy. and most important of that is politics on the basis of truth. you can't go about as a top politician and make things up. if it happens to be useful to you. trump is doing one step further. not just he lies when it's convenient, which politicians do, it's that he wants to overwhelm with so many claims and ridiculousness that nobody can orient themselves. we have to give up thinking what's right, wrong, did happen and didn't happen, and everyone goes with their own team. when that happens, you no longer have a rational basis for democracy. >> you wrote saying trump himself has not been normalized but the fact that the president of the united states is deeply abnormal has. expand on that. >> yes, i was reflecting on where we're at one year into the trump presidency. if you remember the mood after
trump you was elected and his first days in office, there were all these warnings and we would end up normalizing donald trump and what people meant is we would start to think that trump and his policy and administration are an ordinary part of american political life. look at the spectacle of the last day, the comments trump reportedly made about african countries, think about the news about stormy daniels, even if you think about today's fake news award, everybody knows this is not normal. everybody realizes we're living in this extraordinary bizarre times. but i've seen people over the last 12 months get used to it. they haven't changed how they act, that's true of republicans in congress who haven't stood up to donald trump, it's true of the stock markets that even though there's downside risks from him, possibly government shutdown, is going from one strength to another, and people who most despise donald trump, a
year ago, the huge protests against him, now the protests are much smaller. i think we have normalized living in an abnormal situation. and that is just as dangerous. >> thank you both for joining us. i really appreciate it. coming up, democrats got a big, big win last night. and now, paul ryan is more worried than he's ever been. the republicans are feeling the wave coming.
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thank you to all involved in opdivo clinical trials. if any republican couldn't see the wave coming before today, they can all see it now. after a special election last night in wisconsin, republican governor scott walker tweeted, senate district 10 special election win by a democrat is a wake up call for republicans in wisconsin. a very long time ago, actually about three years ago, scott walker was the front runner for the presidential nomination, then came donald trump and now comes the wave. the wave that republicans fare fear is going to wipe them out in this year's elections. wisconsin politicians were already afraid, which is why paul ryan reportedly told confidants that he will not run for reelection next year. here's what paul ryan had to say about yesterday's big republican loss.
>> do you agree with scott walker that last night's results were a wake up call for republicans and is it evidence that a potential wave election is coming in november. >> i know sheila fairly well, it's not my district. but typically we held the seat, and we lost it last night, so we should pay attention for it. >> it sounds like ryan speak for it looks like the democrats are in for a big win in the elections. we'll be back to discuss that next. ary and made it liberating. we took safe and made it daring. we took intelligent, and made it utterly irresistible. we took the most advanced e-class ever and made the most exciting e-class ever. the 2018 e-class coupe and sedan. lease the e300 sedan for $569 a month
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in that special election to the wisconsin senate last night, the democrat patty schachtner beat her republican opponent by 11 points, 55-44. donald trump won that district by 17 points in 2016 and republicans have held that seat for 17 years. ron, when you're looking for -- looking at the horizon, looking for a wave, is this the kind of thing you look at? >> i'm sitting in front of the capitol, 100 highs from the atlantic ocean, even here you can see the blue wave forming on the horizon. it relates to the last segment. we are a democracy. and trump's excesses are going to have a reckoning. i think that reckoning has been in these special elections but particularly will be this fall with the congressional elections. and, you know, that's largely because of a reaction to the kind of presidency donald trump has had, and because of
tremendous activism and enthusiasm by the grass roots. what's exciting is these victories we're seeing in special elections, 35 state legislative seats flipped since donald trump became president. that's not because of people in washington like me. it's because of people in the grassroots are really getting active and really reacting to what they're seeing. >> and john, you always wonder how far down-ballot does presidential impact go. and now you're looking at these state legislature elections. when you have a polling question like this, new quinnipiac poll, is the president mentally stable? no, 47%. yes, 45%. that has never been a question in a poll.
>> he's doing worse on that poll question than i would do, that's a problem. >> we can't even compare that to previous presidents, because no one thought to ask the question. when questions like that are being asked by the head of your party it's got to be tough down ballot. >> sure, midterm elections are always referendums on the president in power, nationalized elections at the house level and down ballot, not so much the senator and gubernatorial levels. i'm not good at math but i think the number that we just looked at was a 17-point, 18-point swing. cornell belcher was on air, a pollster, someone who knows numbers, he says you don't see that kind of swing, that's a crazy swing why are you look at the generic ballot, the enthusiasm of the democratic base, the way the voters are peeling off from moderate, suburban republicans, peeling off from the party, you look at all the evidence. look at everything we've seen, then this. wisconsin is not really trump country. wisconsin is the state that has been a blue state for a pretty long time. it's purplish, right? hillary clinton didn't go there in the fall campaign, sorry to say that to ron klain, allowed trump to steal the state.
there's a lot of places in the country like that. places like ohio, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, that are not trump country, and they are going to -- that is where you are going to see this down-ballot effect where there's going to be the blue wave well into the industrial heartland and a lot of other places if we keep heading this direction. >> ron, the speaker of the house, paul ryan, his home state, wisconsin. he's trying to lead the house of representatives, the republican side of the house of representatives, and he won't tell them he himself will run for re-election this year. and apparently has privately told confidants that he won't. he apparently doesn't believe he can get re-elected in wisconsin this year. >> yeah, it's like the scene in "the titanic." the people on the top decks are trying to get to the boats, everyone else is trying to figure it out. paul ryan sees what's coming. but the truth is, even if paul
ryan's trying to hide what he's doing, a record number of house republicans, a record number of house republicans are retiring. >> and the chairman. >> chairman and people who have spent their whole careers being there for this moment. they're retiring for a reason, because they know that wave is coming and they know that this comeuppance for donald trump is going to take them down too. >> the number at this date, eight house republican chairmen at this point. something you never see. a year out, eight house republican chairmen who have decided to step down for no reason. >> ron chain, john hide dellman, thank you for joining us. "last word" is next. except for these two fellows. this time next year, we're gonna be sitting on an egg. i think we're getting close! make a u-turn... u-turn? recalculating... man, we are never gonna breed. just give it a second. you will arrive in 92 days. nah, nuh-uh. nope, nope, nope. you know who i'm gonna follow? my instincts. as long as gps can still get you lost,
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we have breaking news from the house of representatives, the house rules committee has just voted on a short-term funding bill to avoid a government shutdown that would fund the government to february 16th, including no provision for daca. nothing on daca. it would include a six-year extension of the child health insurance program, children's health insurance program. it would also suspend for two years some of the taxes in the affordable care act. that could be voted on in the house of representatives tomorrow. that's tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. >> tonight on "all in."
tonight, steve bannon is set to cooperate with mueller after we learn the fbi came to his home to serve him with a subpoena. new reporting tonight on what happened during his nine-plus hours of house intel testimony. plus white house steve of chaff john kelley says trump's pledge to build that wall was boss, the president? and how the author of fire and fury worked his way into donald trump's west wing. we will talk to the reporter who first broke these details as the 11th hour gets under way on a wednesday night. and good evening once bane from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 363 of the trump administration and the former white house chief strategist steve bannon remains in the news as the man they want to talk to in the russia matter. one day after mueller subpoenaed bannon to appear before a grand jury a source close to him said he is cooperating with the special counsel and will be interviewed by mueller's team instead